Do You Like Women, or Do You Just Need Other Men to Think You Do?
(There's nothing funnier than starting Pride Month off with an essay on bad straight sex)
True, but that was a whole separate rant and the article was getting long. I do want to do an episode on my podcast about the way Western society pathologized women as not having sexual urges and I think I might bring that up as part of the discussion there!
I don’t think I have ever come across such a miserable group of young people. To define mutual arousal and pleasure as “time wasting” has got to be the saddest little thing (in all manners of the word…) on the internet right now.
Right? It's fine to not be attracted to women, but why on earth are you dating someone you aren't willing to please sexually? If all you care about is your own orgasm, then literally just buy some sex toys and go to town on yourself.
The ROI thing is just a man admitting he can’t make a woman come. My husband and I died laughing when Ben Shapiro basically admitted that by framing it as an infection. And why would any woman sign up for a sexual partner like that? This piece is everything. Well done.
Women are collectively bargaining. And men will be alone and "under babied" until their needs are met. The needs? Pleasure, control over our own bodies, equality in our careers, men doing their fair share of house work, economic systems that make sense to have babies in. The right to still not get pregnant. Why would young women surrender their futures to a boy who thinks its gay to give her pleasure? Or to even wash his own private parts? Make it make sense
Packaged male fragility — a scam that works because the grievance club never lets anyone leave. Two thousand years ago, it was soldiers around a campfire trying to convince each other of their alpha-ness. Today, same campfire, in a different war.
"The first thing to say is simple: it should matter to your partner that you orgasm.
That should not be controversial. That should not be radical. That should not require a manifesto, a research grant, or a hostage negotiation with the most emotionally constipated corners of the internet. And yet here we are, because the bar is in hell and somehow some influencer boys still showed up with a shovel."
Excellent article as always, Professor Meredith! ❤️ At first I was really worried when I saw “do you like women or do you just want men to think you do?” out-of-context that it would be a jab at bi women but I was so relieved to see that it was nothing of the sort!! These men are ridiculous and clearly do not actually care about women and, as you said, are performing heterosexuality for other men. They aren’t treating women as fully human or showing any healthy partner traits of ensuring that both people’s pleasure is respected. If they keep this up, then natural consequences should result in them being extremely single!
Hasn’t this always been the case? I mean these guys have something of a megaphone now, and the stuff they spew can spread a bit farther but this isn’t new. This is reactionary behavior from triggered infants. I’m curious what women who are dating these days think about whether this kind of nonsense is spreading among men they know. It’s exhausting to consider that stupidity and self involvement is so persistent. Great essay. Makes me delighted I’m not single! 😳
Thank you for this rant.
I think something was left behind in your essay, though.
This worldview, that there is "no ROI" in women orgasming, has a very dark, very violent corollary: a permission structure to r*pe.
I think this way of thinking is a direct link to the idea that a man has no need for a woman's consent at all.
I feel this is the loudest unsaid thing in this entire conversation.
True, but that was a whole separate rant and the article was getting long. I do want to do an episode on my podcast about the way Western society pathologized women as not having sexual urges and I think I might bring that up as part of the discussion there!
Had the same thought...😓
So well said...and SO well written. Excellent piece, albeit depressing truths.
It is nice how many men are publicly declaring themselves ineligible for intimacy before women have to find out by actually sleeping with them
I don’t think I have ever come across such a miserable group of young people. To define mutual arousal and pleasure as “time wasting” has got to be the saddest little thing (in all manners of the word…) on the internet right now.
💯💯💯
Right? It's fine to not be attracted to women, but why on earth are you dating someone you aren't willing to please sexually? If all you care about is your own orgasm, then literally just buy some sex toys and go to town on yourself.
Maybe those men should just have sex with their bros, instead.
What's the ROI on a Dutch Rudder with protein powder as lube?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 my thoughts exactly. The love they have for each other is undefeated.
The ROI thing is just a man admitting he can’t make a woman come. My husband and I died laughing when Ben Shapiro basically admitted that by framing it as an infection. And why would any woman sign up for a sexual partner like that? This piece is everything. Well done.
Women are collectively bargaining. And men will be alone and "under babied" until their needs are met. The needs? Pleasure, control over our own bodies, equality in our careers, men doing their fair share of house work, economic systems that make sense to have babies in. The right to still not get pregnant. Why would young women surrender their futures to a boy who thinks its gay to give her pleasure? Or to even wash his own private parts? Make it make sense
My wife and I read this, and her first comment? Stop Giving Men Microphones! 😏
https://youtu.be/niCfuCSE0z0?si=8YZCivNB9F8mRDcv
I just read this article yesterday, and it feels like a confession for exactly what you’ve described here: the primary goal of men being proof of their masculinity to other men. https://lastbluedog.substack.com/p/progressives-dont-understand-masculinity?r=50gwq&utm_medium=ios
Packaged male fragility — a scam that works because the grievance club never lets anyone leave. Two thousand years ago, it was soldiers around a campfire trying to convince each other of their alpha-ness. Today, same campfire, in a different war.
"The first thing to say is simple: it should matter to your partner that you orgasm.
That should not be controversial. That should not be radical. That should not require a manifesto, a research grant, or a hostage negotiation with the most emotionally constipated corners of the internet. And yet here we are, because the bar is in hell and somehow some influencer boys still showed up with a shovel."
Love your substack! Hence why the romance novel sales is over $1 billion dollars annually in the US --now that's an ROI!
I’m writing a polycule romance right now!
You are fucking brilliant.
Excellent article as always, Professor Meredith! ❤️ At first I was really worried when I saw “do you like women or do you just want men to think you do?” out-of-context that it would be a jab at bi women but I was so relieved to see that it was nothing of the sort!! These men are ridiculous and clearly do not actually care about women and, as you said, are performing heterosexuality for other men. They aren’t treating women as fully human or showing any healthy partner traits of ensuring that both people’s pleasure is respected. If they keep this up, then natural consequences should result in them being extremely single!
Hasn’t this always been the case? I mean these guys have something of a megaphone now, and the stuff they spew can spread a bit farther but this isn’t new. This is reactionary behavior from triggered infants. I’m curious what women who are dating these days think about whether this kind of nonsense is spreading among men they know. It’s exhausting to consider that stupidity and self involvement is so persistent. Great essay. Makes me delighted I’m not single! 😳
Well said! Can,I get an Amen, hallelujah here?🙌