If a rich person is "worried" about something it generally means you're on the right track. When all of the rich people are 'worried' you know you are.
Stopped at one. But, I agree. Frankly, I think they just want future consumers and soldiers. Thankfully, I had my son between wars. I pay no mind to what the gov’t, or religions, want for me.,
Desire for children is assumed, and people (usually elderly) feel free to question childless women. This is annoying for some & painful to women unable to conceive. Either way, it’s none of your business.
Absolutely, it’s no one else’s business. But you identify one major demographic who is concerned: the elderly. Because if there are fewer children, fewer young people, who is going to take care of the boomers until they die? And that’s just one facet of the capitalist extraction economy that is going to go boom before all this is over.
Paula, EXACTLY. Who do they think has been taking care of them all along? Who do they think is going to when all of the doctors and nurses and carers are deported?
They want women to have more babies and yet they say AI will be taking over most of our jobs. SMH…they’re so greedy why not create AI bots that will buy digital products and leave us humans the frick alone. This administrations policies IS birth control.
I'm happy as can be that I opted out of reproducing myself as my life's path. I went through a period in my teens and twenties (and in my twenties it took shape as hormonal and physical longing to be pregnant), but it passed, thank goodness. I had other things to do with this one life than become a stereotype of motherhood (I would have failed miserably at that particular classification). And I love kids. xo
Whether or not to have children is and always should have been a very personal decision, obviously. There was a definite push for women to go home (post war efforts) and have and raise children for the future of the nation. I was one of those post WW II babies. My mother (who already had one daughter - my half sister from a former marriage) was pushed out of her beloved (pretty high powered professional position) was pushed out as men returned home to the work world and my mother remarried and set up home for the 2nd time in her life including my birth. The marriage was not ideal and she never really wanted to be a mother a 2nd time but did what women were told was right. We were a low income family but we got by and had the things we really needed. Money did actually go farther then and babies actually had fewer items.
Fast forward to today and women are now being encouraged to have more children as America is “under babied”, reportedly. My dad’s wages were low but we were able to get by as I have already mentioned. Today’s low wages are not enough for 2 parents and a child to live and even guarantee the basics of a decent place to live, health care, adequate food, transportation, and other resources, let alone all of the other items that children are expected to have access to these days. In our current world, often both parents work/need to work/want to work but the costs of child care can eat up a paycheck from a low paying job. You get where this is all going…
The bottom line is that there are many women today who simply do not aspire to motherhood, women who feel they cannot adequately take care of a child, women who are taking care of other family members and do not have time/sanity to bring children into this work and take care of them, want to focus on careers which really do not give women a fair break in terms of expecting to women to be perfect mothers while also being a perfect employee. The list goes on and on.
IF you want more women to re-consider motherhood, then there are a lot of social issues that must be addressed and resolved for each woman/child/family.
Also, there is a seemingly increasing number of “infertile” couples who need specialized medical care and possibly IVF. There are often a lot of costs associated with this that are not necessarily affordable to every woman who wishes to conceive. IF the government is so invested in increasing the number of births, then it needs to put its money where its mouth is.
One last comment here for the moment about motherhood and the government: take note that largely the folks at the federal level who are worrying about women being under-babied are largely addressing “white” women as White Christian Nationalists race to ship women and children of color out of the country in favor of white mothers and children.
The rhetoric is the same over here in the UK. We are not having “enough” children. For me, that ship has long since sailed but even if I was still able to conceive and bear a child, I wouldn’t want to. The cost of living (read cost of existing) is through the roof, housing is in short supply, the world is in a perilous state and childcare is unaffordable. Even when I had my children 1996 and 2000) the nursery fees were only just under the amount we were paying for our mortgage.
There is also the fear of the “great replacement”. Men, and some women, are worried that there won’t be enough white British babies. But care work, of any sort, is not valued, so why should we put ourselves through it? Maternity care isn’t quite as bad in the UK as it is in the US but many maternity wards/hospitals are under investigation for poor outcomes, including maternal and infant mortality.
The solution is hardly rocket science - improve maternity care, make companies pay a living wage, make housing more affordable and subsidise childcare. And pigs might fly 🙄
Completely agree with you Suzanne. The days of being able to live on one salary or have two salaries with one salary going towards child care are long behind us, even if all potential child bearing women suddenly decided to have babies. The folks at the top who have wealth and plentiful resources have no idea what it looks like for the rest of us. All of this is a personal choice to be made by women but honestly most of us do not have a lot of options due to lack of resources and lack of a stable economy.
If a rich person is "worried" about something it generally means you're on the right track. When all of the rich people are 'worried' you know you are.
Yes! As Leeja Miller keeps saying -"The billionaires are scared. And they SHOULD BE."
(And goes on to say, "We just want them to pay fair taxes. They're lucky we don't want revenge.")
A woman’s JOB is to bear multiple children.
A man’s JOB is to abuse the hell out of them.
I watched my mom who had 6 children. I said “no thank you”. I know what children do not get coming from large religious families.
I have 3.
Stopped at one. But, I agree. Frankly, I think they just want future consumers and soldiers. Thankfully, I had my son between wars. I pay no mind to what the gov’t, or religions, want for me.,
Desire for children is assumed, and people (usually elderly) feel free to question childless women. This is annoying for some & painful to women unable to conceive. Either way, it’s none of your business.
Absolutely, it’s no one else’s business. But you identify one major demographic who is concerned: the elderly. Because if there are fewer children, fewer young people, who is going to take care of the boomers until they die? And that’s just one facet of the capitalist extraction economy that is going to go boom before all this is over.
People screaming about immigration are either unaware, or have forgotten, that a significant number of home healthcare workers are immigrants.
Paula, EXACTLY. Who do they think has been taking care of them all along? Who do they think is going to when all of the doctors and nurses and carers are deported?
always extract from women and not the government 🤔
They want women to have more babies and yet they say AI will be taking over most of our jobs. SMH…they’re so greedy why not create AI bots that will buy digital products and leave us humans the frick alone. This administrations policies IS birth control.
I'm happy as can be that I opted out of reproducing myself as my life's path. I went through a period in my teens and twenties (and in my twenties it took shape as hormonal and physical longing to be pregnant), but it passed, thank goodness. I had other things to do with this one life than become a stereotype of motherhood (I would have failed miserably at that particular classification). And I love kids. xo
Whether or not to have children is and always should have been a very personal decision, obviously. There was a definite push for women to go home (post war efforts) and have and raise children for the future of the nation. I was one of those post WW II babies. My mother (who already had one daughter - my half sister from a former marriage) was pushed out of her beloved (pretty high powered professional position) was pushed out as men returned home to the work world and my mother remarried and set up home for the 2nd time in her life including my birth. The marriage was not ideal and she never really wanted to be a mother a 2nd time but did what women were told was right. We were a low income family but we got by and had the things we really needed. Money did actually go farther then and babies actually had fewer items.
Fast forward to today and women are now being encouraged to have more children as America is “under babied”, reportedly. My dad’s wages were low but we were able to get by as I have already mentioned. Today’s low wages are not enough for 2 parents and a child to live and even guarantee the basics of a decent place to live, health care, adequate food, transportation, and other resources, let alone all of the other items that children are expected to have access to these days. In our current world, often both parents work/need to work/want to work but the costs of child care can eat up a paycheck from a low paying job. You get where this is all going…
The bottom line is that there are many women today who simply do not aspire to motherhood, women who feel they cannot adequately take care of a child, women who are taking care of other family members and do not have time/sanity to bring children into this work and take care of them, want to focus on careers which really do not give women a fair break in terms of expecting to women to be perfect mothers while also being a perfect employee. The list goes on and on.
IF you want more women to re-consider motherhood, then there are a lot of social issues that must be addressed and resolved for each woman/child/family.
Also, there is a seemingly increasing number of “infertile” couples who need specialized medical care and possibly IVF. There are often a lot of costs associated with this that are not necessarily affordable to every woman who wishes to conceive. IF the government is so invested in increasing the number of births, then it needs to put its money where its mouth is.
One last comment here for the moment about motherhood and the government: take note that largely the folks at the federal level who are worrying about women being under-babied are largely addressing “white” women as White Christian Nationalists race to ship women and children of color out of the country in favor of white mothers and children.
I completely agree with your last paragraph but would say the folks at federal level ARE WCNS and are ONLY addressing white women.
The rhetoric is the same over here in the UK. We are not having “enough” children. For me, that ship has long since sailed but even if I was still able to conceive and bear a child, I wouldn’t want to. The cost of living (read cost of existing) is through the roof, housing is in short supply, the world is in a perilous state and childcare is unaffordable. Even when I had my children 1996 and 2000) the nursery fees were only just under the amount we were paying for our mortgage.
There is also the fear of the “great replacement”. Men, and some women, are worried that there won’t be enough white British babies. But care work, of any sort, is not valued, so why should we put ourselves through it? Maternity care isn’t quite as bad in the UK as it is in the US but many maternity wards/hospitals are under investigation for poor outcomes, including maternal and infant mortality.
The solution is hardly rocket science - improve maternity care, make companies pay a living wage, make housing more affordable and subsidise childcare. And pigs might fly 🙄
Completely agree with you Suzanne. The days of being able to live on one salary or have two salaries with one salary going towards child care are long behind us, even if all potential child bearing women suddenly decided to have babies. The folks at the top who have wealth and plentiful resources have no idea what it looks like for the rest of us. All of this is a personal choice to be made by women but honestly most of us do not have a lot of options due to lack of resources and lack of a stable economy.